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Master of Arms (Second World Simulations) Reasons why I think it's so Poor, Combat matrixes and Feats for presteges at every level
Worst D20 Supplement Ever
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Posted 27 April 2004 - 04:12 PM
Well I have some thoughts on the worst published supplement ever but I'd like to discuss what others think so Here Is my nomination for the Room 101 Worst supplement
Master of Arms (Second World Simulations) Reasons why I think it's so Poor, Combat matrixes and Feats for presteges at every level
Master of Arms (Second World Simulations) Reasons why I think it's so Poor, Combat matrixes and Feats for presteges at every level
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Posted 27 April 2004 - 04:29 PM
Song & Silence
The Rogue and Bard suppliment.
Pathetic artwork
Little content
The content sucks
Prestige classes suck
Feats suck
Over priced
Could be (and may have been) created in approximately 3 days (including publishing & distribution)
And lastly, it is to this day, the LAST suppliment I actually spent money on.
Other than the above, they did a good job on the Table of Contents and the Index. But that could be because it was only like 30 pages long.
The Rogue and Bard suppliment.
Pathetic artwork
Little content
The content sucks
Prestige classes suck
Feats suck
Over priced
Could be (and may have been) created in approximately 3 days (including publishing & distribution)
And lastly, it is to this day, the LAST suppliment I actually spent money on.
Other than the above, they did a good job on the Table of Contents and the Index. But that could be because it was only like 30 pages long.
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Posted 27 April 2004 - 05:03 PM
Song and Silence
yeah, it sucked. There was some good stuff, but what the hell was the Explorer PrC, in there for?
In 2nd ed. it was in the rangers supplement.
yeah, it sucked. There was some good stuff, but what the hell was the Explorer PrC, in there for?
In 2nd ed. it was in the rangers supplement.
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Posted 27 April 2004 - 05:15 PM
Gamemasta, on Apr 27 2004, 04:29 PM, said:
Song & Silence
The Rogue and Bard suppliment.
Pathetic artwork
Little content
The content sucks
Prestige classes suck
Feats suck
Over priced
Could be (and may have been) created in approximately 3 days (including publishing & distribution)
And lastly, it is to this day, the LAST suppliment I actually spent money on.
Other than the above, they did a good job on the Table of Contents and the Index. But that could be because it was only like 30 pages long.
The Rogue and Bard suppliment.
Pathetic artwork
Little content
The content sucks
Prestige classes suck
Feats suck
Over priced
Could be (and may have been) created in approximately 3 days (including publishing & distribution)
And lastly, it is to this day, the LAST suppliment I actually spent money on.
Other than the above, they did a good job on the Table of Contents and the Index. But that could be because it was only like 30 pages long.
Song and Silence: Hmmmn Better of spending the same cash on Mongooses Quintessential Druid, Quint Ranger IMHO
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Posted 27 April 2004 - 07:25 PM
Everything for 3rd edition. Trust me, just spend your money on WoT or d20 Modern. Or do your own conversion of AD&D to d20. You can't possibly do worse than WotC did.
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Posted 27 April 2004 - 09:12 PM
Supplements buddy! Lets not lose our pants on the big picture.
That aside
Psisonics Handbook is the worst I saw, but it's the only one i've seen.
That aside
Psisonics Handbook is the worst I saw, but it's the only one i've seen.
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Posted 27 April 2004 - 11:20 PM
Hmm... For me it's a throw-up between Mythic Races, modules, and WoTC's Cleric & Paladin supplement (I can't remember the name. Books are packed while I move).
Of the entire hardcover book that is Mythic Races, only two or three might be useful. The artwork is hideous, the paper quality is horrid. But atleast they got the spelling right, mostly.
As far as I have seen all the modules out there encourage roll-play over role-play. This is, IMO, the worst thing for an RP and therefore I hate them for their very existence.
WoTC's Cleric & Paladin Supplement (whose name I don't recall) is the most useless POS that I've had the unfortunate duty of spending $ on. Clerics and Paladins have always been important in my campaigns, so I had looked forward to the book. Unfortunately all the new stuff is almost completely useless. And look at the prestige classes! For most of them you can't even be an adventurer anymore! Just think of the Hospitaler! Completely pointless unless you plan on hanging out in med tents and hospitals the whole time. It was also filled with numerous typos which were very distracting. You'd think they'd atleast have run it through a spellchecker and a grammer checker before sending it to the publisher.
Now, in response to some other suggestions. My group greatly enjoyed the added flexibility provided by Song & Silence, and I've always been a fan of psionics. I have of course made numerous modifications to the book, but then, I wouldn't be a DM if I hadn't altered the rules nearly beyond recognition. As for the others, I never picked them up.
Of the entire hardcover book that is Mythic Races, only two or three might be useful. The artwork is hideous, the paper quality is horrid. But atleast they got the spelling right, mostly.
As far as I have seen all the modules out there encourage roll-play over role-play. This is, IMO, the worst thing for an RP and therefore I hate them for their very existence.
WoTC's Cleric & Paladin Supplement (whose name I don't recall) is the most useless POS that I've had the unfortunate duty of spending $ on. Clerics and Paladins have always been important in my campaigns, so I had looked forward to the book. Unfortunately all the new stuff is almost completely useless. And look at the prestige classes! For most of them you can't even be an adventurer anymore! Just think of the Hospitaler! Completely pointless unless you plan on hanging out in med tents and hospitals the whole time. It was also filled with numerous typos which were very distracting. You'd think they'd atleast have run it through a spellchecker and a grammer checker before sending it to the publisher.
Now, in response to some other suggestions. My group greatly enjoyed the added flexibility provided by Song & Silence, and I've always been a fan of psionics. I have of course made numerous modifications to the book, but then, I wouldn't be a DM if I hadn't altered the rules nearly beyond recognition. As for the others, I never picked them up.
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Posted 27 April 2004 - 11:33 PM
I'd have to agree mythic races is pretty bad. about the worst thing FFG put out, I think. Anything by Fast Forward Games goes tops on the list for me, their books just... suck.
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Posted 28 April 2004 - 05:26 PM
the 3.0 guide to PC generation...not sure the name..
It was a 10 page deal for 20.00 that repeated everything in the Players handbook over again...it was retarded.
It's crap like this that makes me want to ralph.
Gabriel
It was a 10 page deal for 20.00 that repeated everything in the Players handbook over again...it was retarded.
It's crap like this that makes me want to ralph.
Gabriel
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Posted 28 April 2004 - 05:58 PM
Hida Gabriel, on Apr 28 2004, 01:26 PM, said:
the 3.0 guide to PC generation...not sure the name..
The Hero Builders Guidebook.
How do I know? I own a copy. That was back when I was buying just about everything. Now I know better. Complete piece of crap.
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Posted 29 April 2004 - 01:48 AM
Even better than Phone Books is http://www.20000-names.com . It has names seperated by origin and sex. All you could really dream of, and unlike some of the custom names people make up, all of these sound like real names because they are!
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Posted 29 April 2004 - 08:00 AM
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the 3.0 guide to PC generation...not sure the name..
It was a 10 page deal for 20.00 that repeated everything in the Players handbook over again...it was retarded.
It's crap like this that makes me want to ralph.
It was a 10 page deal for 20.00 that repeated everything in the Players handbook over again...it was retarded.
It's crap like this that makes me want to ralph.
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The Hero Builders Guidebook.
How do I know? I own a copy. That was back when I was buying just about everything. Now I know better. Complete piece of crap.
How do I know? I own a copy. That was back when I was buying just about everything. Now I know better. Complete piece of crap.
Thanx, now I know better. I have considered buying that one a couple times.
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Posted 30 April 2004 - 01:13 PM
dragonhand777, on Apr 29 2004, 08:00 AM, said:
SNIP...
Thanx, now I know better. I have considered buying that one a couple times.
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The Hero Builders Guidebook.
How do I know? I own a copy. That was back when I was buying just about everything. Now I know better. Complete piece of crap.
How do I know? I own a copy. That was back when I was buying just about everything. Now I know better. Complete piece of crap.
Thanx, now I know better. I have considered buying that one a couple times.
Well if you realy need a copy
they where almost giving copies away on ebay
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Posted 30 April 2004 - 05:43 PM
I would keep it in the bathroom...
Not for light reading...you just never know when your going to run out of toilet paper.
I'm also not fond of the 3.0 Monster manual. Maybe it's something about needing 50 pages of errata to fix the book....
I'm just too poor, and lazy to buy the 3.5 version so I printed off the Eratta list, and I just refer to that...
Not for light reading...you just never know when your going to run out of toilet paper.
I'm also not fond of the 3.0 Monster manual. Maybe it's something about needing 50 pages of errata to fix the book....
I'm just too poor, and lazy to buy the 3.5 version so I printed off the Eratta list, and I just refer to that...