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#1 User is offline   alphageekmattpi 

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Posted 05 June 2006 - 01:38 AM

ok our dm told us today that next meeting we will be fighting a vampire lord that is kas and its a epic character ~lvl 25 and i was wondering if any one had any advice we are playing lvl 20s (fighter, druid, rouge, and wizerd)
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Posted 05 June 2006 - 02:03 AM

Load up on wooden stakes. Remember that, woe is fond of saying, fire is the nuclear weapon of the medieval age. Running water is good. Sunlight is better. Garlic and holy symbols can at least keep it away from you. Oh, and just before it is about to die, get ti to bite you and then have someone kill it. Nothing like a free vampire template!
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Posted 05 June 2006 - 02:19 AM

Aside from kneeling before it as your master, pledging yourself to it and turning in your comrades on the condition of becoming a vampire yourself, I really can't give you much advice beyond what Raven gave you.

Confront it outside, during the day, if possible. Confront it in an area that you have previously set up for the event (with lots of anti-vamp goodies lying about), if possible. And if neither of those are possible, hope that you can outrun the other members of the party.
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Posted 05 June 2006 - 02:48 AM

Hide in a building with only a small window for the entrance. Get a large, ill tempered cat. When the vampire tries to enter in bat-form.... Well, vampires have returned from the grave, but never from the cat....

Or you could run. Run fast, run far, and don't stop running.

Or you could try some classic breakage. You need stone shape and quicken spell. Confront the vampire in a stone castle. Stoneshape the floor into a tight-fitting mold around him with only a small opening. Use that opening for.... well, "Fire in the hole!"
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Posted 05 June 2006 - 04:51 AM

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Posted 05 June 2006 - 01:42 PM

View Postalphageekmattpi, on Jun 4 2006, 09:38 PM, said:

a vampire lord that is kas and its a epic character ~lvl 25
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So your going to be fighting a vampire lord who is also an avatar of a intermediate god? At level 20? Yeah... have fun with your TPK!
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Posted 05 June 2006 - 02:03 PM

Well, if they're careful about where and when they fight him there's a slim chance. But if they run in with the 'I LIKE SWORDS!' method of combat, yeah, they're screwed.
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Posted 05 June 2006 - 02:35 PM

And by screwed, Dthclaw means that he is going to tie you down and show you all the wrong ways to use accupuncture needles before he dismbowls you with a hangnail on his little toe.

It might be wise to fight him in a Temple of Palor on Celestia during groad dayilight while wearing underclothes and chockers made from garlic. I'd also have a couple holy burst weapons on hand, and maybe even a remote control to turn on the Citadel of the Sun....

Point is, don't fight a deity at 20th level. It's going to be ugly, and not in your favor.
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Posted 05 June 2006 - 05:57 PM

My suggestions stand. There's no saving throw to avoid being encased in stone, and once he's in there he can't do anything. Like I said, fire in the hole.

Or take advantage of the fact that he's a vampire. A swim in a pool of holy water ought to settle him down a bit.
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Posted 05 June 2006 - 09:11 PM

Problem with the 'fire in the hole' method is that it requires a hole, which won't stop a vampire for one second.
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Posted 05 June 2006 - 09:52 PM

Ok, who needs a hole anyway? A body fitting statue should do it. Toss that in the pool of holy water. Encase the pool in iron with holy symbols carved on it. Leave it in the desert.
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Posted 05 June 2006 - 09:54 PM

Gotta hand DthClaw that one.

Wizard: Hah! I've encased him in stone! Now we can beat on him!
Fighter: But... He's in a rock. We can't get to him.
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Wizard: How's that? ...Why is it foggy all of a sudden?
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Posted 06 June 2006 - 04:33 PM

Uh, Axel, did you forget that deities have those things called Divine Salient Abilities? And almost every deity has Alter Reality? And as I do not believe Kas has a proper full stat block, the DM could easily declare that Kas has that DSA? You're stone shape, holy water, and iron containment vessel and holy symbols barely last the round before Kas just alters reality such that none of them are there anymore. And then he kills all the characters without a second though. Gods are not that easily defeated.
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Posted 06 June 2006 - 07:08 PM

Are we dealing with gods or vampires here? Vampires are killable, by deffinition gods are not.
And, as you well know, I do not subscribe to deity rules.
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Posted 06 June 2006 - 08:19 PM

In this case Axel, we're dealing with both in one.
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