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What type of stats would a set of Astral Full Plate have? I mean I know it is lighter then a normal set of Full Plate, but would it count as one armor type lower like Mithril would? So it would be medium armor stead of heavy.
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Posted 22 February 2006 - 12:51 AM
When you say "Astral," are you referring to the material Astral Driftmetal or something else? Armor made from the former is actually 5 lbs heavier and grants the ability for the armor to be effective against incorporeal touch attacks 25% of the time. If the latter... I have no idea what you're referring to.
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Posted 22 February 2006 - 01:50 AM
Maybe you just did really poorly on your appraise skill check and improperly guessed it as lighter than it was?
I'd recommend asking your DM about it, and if he confirms that it's Astral Driftmetal, point out that it's 5 lbs heavier and not at all lighter. He or she can come up with the excuse as to why it's lighter than its supposed to be ( like having tiny unseen servants lift it up a bit for you whenever you try to lift it. Yeah. That's it.
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I'd recommend asking your DM about it, and if he confirms that it's Astral Driftmetal, point out that it's 5 lbs heavier and not at all lighter. He or she can come up with the excuse as to why it's lighter than its supposed to be ( like having tiny unseen servants lift it up a bit for you whenever you try to lift it. Yeah. That's it.
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Posted 22 February 2006 - 01:58 AM
I did not appraise it with a skill I had my character pick the armor up and feel its weight. I don't really understand why something from the astral plane would be heavyer though. Seems like it would be lighter with the maner that it just sorts of floats and has its own gravity field and such in the astral plane. Also he said it was a hard metal, and this would increase the AC of the Full Plate. So how much would it increase the AC?
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Posted 22 February 2006 - 05:14 AM
That's entirely up to him. He's obviously not using WoTC's version of Astral Driftmetal. Sorry we can't be of further assistance.
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Posted 22 February 2006 - 06:00 AM
Yeah. Quite litterally, WotC Astral Driftmetal only grants a 25% chance to be effective against incorporeal touch attacks (and only incorporeal touch attacks... no help against, say, eldritch blast) and weighs 5 lbs. more. Not worth the cost, not worth the effort.
It also states, quite specifically, that everything else - check penalty, weight class, armor bonus, etc. - are unchanged. So if your DM is using the WotC Astral Driftmetal, he's using it seriously wrong.
The hardness of a material never changes the armor bonus it grants. It may, as evidenced by adamantine, grant a small amount of damage reduction, but that's it.
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Also he said it was a hard metal, and this would increase the AC of the Full Plate. So how much would it increase the AC?
It also states, quite specifically, that everything else - check penalty, weight class, armor bonus, etc. - are unchanged. So if your DM is using the WotC Astral Driftmetal, he's using it seriously wrong.
The hardness of a material never changes the armor bonus it grants. It may, as evidenced by adamantine, grant a small amount of damage reduction, but that's it.
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Posted 22 February 2006 - 03:33 PM
Yeah... I forgot the properties... and just in case you didn't know I'm the DM in question here... I gotta find my armors pages... Heh...
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Posted 22 February 2006 - 08:32 PM
Bad Jack. Now I command you to beat yourself with celery.
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Posted 23 February 2006 - 01:36 AM
I was going to demand he procure a shrubbery and then chop down the tallest tree in the forest with a herring, but beating himself with celery is fine too.
Seorith, would it be fair to assume this topic's done and it's ok for me to close it?
Seorith, would it be fair to assume this topic's done and it's ok for me to close it?
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Posted 23 February 2006 - 03:59 PM
I'd say go ahead... and no.. I will not beat myself with celery... 
I don't remember anyone dying and making you Ao... (Besides I don't have any celery so double )
I don't remember anyone dying and making you Ao... (Besides I don't have any celery so double )
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Posted 23 February 2006 - 04:05 PM
Oh really, Jack? Well I think I shall have the last word on this matter. Rather than using celery, you should roll yourself in honey, construct a shield from Ritz crackers and a sword from cabbage and prod the nearest tarrasque until it wakes up.
This technique of RPG playing has been passed down the Bloodmooon line for generations!
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Posted 27 February 2006 - 09:50 PM
Actually, they did in fact change Astral Driftmetal over to 3.5.
3.5 Astral Driftmetal:
-No weight increase (but no weight decrease either)
-100% effective against incorporeal touch attacks
-Additional 12,000 gp in price
-Can only be used for "chunky" metal armors
3.5 Source: Planar Handbook
3.5 Astral Driftmetal:
-No weight increase (but no weight decrease either)
-100% effective against incorporeal touch attacks
-Additional 12,000 gp in price
-Can only be used for "chunky" metal armors
3.5 Source: Planar Handbook
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Posted 28 February 2006 - 12:10 AM
Thanks for the update Dthclaw. I'm still learning about many of the changes, and this is an interesting one. I wonder why exactly they would see the need to alter it completely instead of merely making a new addition (which they don't seem to have many scruples against anyways).
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Posted 28 February 2006 - 06:30 AM
Yeah. They changed another one of the Arms and Equipment materials, but it's late and I have a long day ahead, so I'll post sometime in the next day or two.
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