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Moral Quandry Is it good or evil?
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Posted 16 November 2005 - 11:26 AM
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Posted 16 November 2005 - 04:12 PM
I.... I don't honestly know. I would personally consider it kinda evil unless the archon stated it was willing to be used as a meat shield/ meat club.
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Posted 16 November 2005 - 05:53 PM
Well, the cohort may b a follower, but hes not a drone, so he wouldnt do it if he didnt want to. if the PC's coerced him thru threats of violence/whatever, than its wrong. the dm decideds how far that the npc will go for the PC's, so the archon was doing it of his own violition. if the archon wouldnt do it, then its the dm's job to say, no the archon wont do that. so it is niether good nor evil.
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Posted 16 November 2005 - 08:14 PM
The act itself if the archon is unwilling, is evil, however, it is to achieve good ends, so I'd allow it. Just like I'd allow it if someone burned down an orphanage to save the rest of a city from a deadly plague.
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Sometimes great acts of goodness require small acts of evil.
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Sometimes great acts of goodness require small acts of evil.
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Posted 16 November 2005 - 09:11 PM
Personally I'm actually kind of awe-struck that the exalted PC would use the Archon as a not-so-human shield, and then as a divine WEAPON 
And I'm the guy that told Majus to use Kami as a wind breaker...
(I voted 3)
And I'm the guy that told Majus to use Kami as a wind breaker...
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Posted 17 November 2005 - 02:18 PM
Even if the archon was willing that borders on way too evil...no good pc would even consider that as an option. A neutral or terribly chaotic neutral PC, sure. I tend to be a bit of a stickler thoguh...for example any druid in my campaigns that uses squirrels to set off traps immediately loses their druidic powers 
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Posted 17 November 2005 - 04:26 PM
paul gilbert, on Nov 16 2005, 09:19 PM, said:
I would need more info if it ever came up in DnD game. My DM would probably telll me to go away or something
Are you implying i deal with complex situations by ignoring them?
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Posted 17 November 2005 - 04:27 PM
Oh and i would say it was vilely evil....
As sacraficing a folower is evil, especialy when hes exalted!
As sacraficing a folower is evil, especialy when hes exalted!
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Posted 17 November 2005 - 04:49 PM
Well actually using the archon istelf as a weapon, that's evil lol. As for the human shield, if the archon agreed to it then I would say it was for good but more chaotic good. If he didn't ask however and if the archon didn't want to be used as a human shiled and a living baseball bat then I'd say evil
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Posted 18 November 2005 - 07:43 PM
I don't really know how to feel about this, personally i think that using a archon follower as both a meat sheild and a diving weapon is good improvising but the moral implications are really appualing. Usually when I DM my players pull htis kinda stuff alot, receltly including using a dagger to tap at a bugbears spinal cord after t hey tied him up and everything...they have fun with torture all using the chaotic neutral alingment unless they are another class then those people witht hg ood axis just leave the area. In the end i think that using teh archon for sheild and weapon is rather evl espically against a follower who has shown loyalty to you
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Posted 18 November 2005 - 09:41 PM
the shield should be prepared to give his life for the greater good!
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