[WoeTheSinner]

Just got this book a few days ago as the campaing I will be playing in is in a cold environment and the dm is using this book... I must say I was pleasently surprised. Its got some decent things in it. My favorite by far is the Primeval PrC. Have you guys taken a look at this? This is madness, a halforc barbarian with the right stats and some careful equipment choices with a polar bear or a rhino as their "innner animal" with rage would ger +20 to str for the duration of the rage.... I LOVE IT SOOOO MUCH but its maddd...now admitedly there are drawbacks..but i do not think these are enough to offset the benefits of a straight up damage dealing Tank.

[corellon]

what set is this book in??? forgotten realms, Krynn, Greyhawk, what???

[Rintaran]

Who publishes this book? Is it all for arctic/cold-weather adventures? How much does it cost (preferably in CAN, but I can convert the US$ if necessary)? How many pages? I admit, for the first time in a while, I'm actually interested in buying the book, but I want to know a bit more about it first.

[Darius]

Rintaran, on Dec 21 2004, 02:20 PM, said:

Who publishes this book?  Is it all for arctic/cold-weather adventures?  How much does it cost (preferably in CAN, but I can convert the US$ if necessary)?  How many pages?  I admit, for the first time in a while, I'm actually interested in buying the book, but I want to know a bit more about it first.

Its called "Frostburn" and is from WOTC

http://www.wizards.c...ndacc/177580000

Whats Stupid about the book , is it's the first 1 WOTC has offered in a secure PDF for download and IT'S THE SAME COST AS THE NORMAL BOOK ANYWAY!!!!

D

[dragonhand777]

Darius, on Dec 20 2004, 11:28 PM, said:

Whats Stupid about the book , is it's the first 1 WOTC has offered in a secure PDF for download and IT'S THE SAME COST AS THE NORMAL BOOK ANYWAY!!!!

D

Yeah, that is pretty stupid. The PDF is availible from DrivThruRPG for $34.95 (US dollars). Most PDFs there are half that or less. I imagine you could find the hardcover through Amozon for less, and it would probably qualify for their free shipping.

I wasn't really interested in it before reading Woe's post, now I'm considering purchasing it. Of course, Complete Adventurer comes out after the first of the year and I plan on making that my next purchase.

[WoeTheSinner]

I would hold off on purchasing this book unless you plan on playing in an "Ice campaign" but I must say for that particular setting it provides some good info and resources. If you have some spare cash and a desire to amass even more books this is one I would recomend. Though as with all WotC material its ridiculously overpriced

[ladyofdragons]

You can buy it from Amazon.com through the site here, price is currently $23.07 USD for a new copy.

This is a book I do have on my wish list, hope to buy it sometime soon, but I don't need it until the party gets to where they're going into an arctic area.

[Ssri-Tel-Quessir Hitokiri]

Well you don't have to be in an artic area to use the book. You could always bring the artic to the players if that is at all possible.

I will agree, I did not find the book too interesting but now I guess I should actually take a look at it.

Out of curiousity, are there any drawbacks to the class?

[WoeTheSinner]

When in the primal form you can not speak. The primal form acts as a druids wildshape so you need Wild armor and such if you want to use your equipmnet. You gain 1 to str dex con wis and lose 1 to int and cha every 3 levels i believe...basicaly it makes u stupid but ridiculously strong

You require 3 feats (endurance, self-sufficient,toughness) bab 8 and a sizable amount of skills to enter the calss. But nothing that would be undoable for a barbarian. The only real problem is if you start with an int of 8 or so...by the time you are done you will be a special indivifual.

[Darius]

Doesnt neccessarily have to be artic - somewhere like the canada/great plains arrangement in north america would work , An acquaintance of mine is from Minnesota.We were talking about snow in winter etc and she was saying that it's measured in Meters(Ok yards , you know what I mean ) , instead of feet and Inches and that the Blizzards were nasty.
the new stuff could be used for winter anywhere as long as you get snow and ice.

D

[Ssri-Tel-Quessir Hitokiri]

WoeTheSinner, on Dec 21 2004, 08:15 PM, said:

When in the primal form you can not speak. The primal form acts as a druids wildshape so you need Wild armor and such if you want to use your equipmnet. You gain 1 to str dex con wis and lose 1 to int and cha every 3 levels i believe...basicaly it makes u stupid but ridiculously strong

Well... That sounds like a lot of fun. The losses are only temporary correct? I mean its like a Wild Shape or Rage thing so it has a set duration right? I only ask because that last part about having an Int of 8 got me questioning.

[dragonhand777]

WoeTheSinner, on Dec 21 2004, 08:07 AM, said:

I would hold off on purchasing this book unless you plan on playing in an "Ice campaign" but I must say for that particular setting it provides some good info and resources. If you have some spare cash and a desire to amass even more books this is one I would recomend.  Though as with all WotC material its ridiculously overpriced

Heh heh, they are already in a place that fits that description. A territory in my campaign world known as Coldwinds.

Although they wil be exiting soon, they are still far north and it's the middle of winter, so like Darius said,

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Doesnt neccessarily have to be artic - somewhere like the canada/great plains arrangement in north america would work...

Perhaps I shouldn't put it off, eh?

[WoeTheSinner]

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The losses are only temporary correct?

Nope the losses are permanent as yuo "revert to a more primal form"

As a class feature your str con dex wis increses as your int cha decreases, when you use the "rageish-wildshapeish ability" you gain a bonus to your physical stats = to your choice of "inner spirit" creature stats -10 (or -11 if the stat is odd) for 3 + con bonus rounds

You may choose Animals, Dire Animals, or dinosaurs, as the inner animal deal. The animal can be no more than 8 hit dice and no more than 1 size category larger than you.

If for example I (Woe the Human) choose a Dire Lion, now I get +14 to str +4 to dex and +6 to con for the duration or my reverted form....

[Ssri-Tel-Quessir Hitokiri]

Wow... Sounds like a lot of fun.

[WoeTheSinner]

i am seriously debating making a character totaly based on wolverine, with a dire wolverine as the spirit animal and some sor of exotic weapon as the claws...I'm thinking Barbarian (Need wolverine rage)/ranger (for when he calmed down and honed his art samurai style and for the 2 wpn fighting)/Primeval...with a wolverine as an animal companion